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Post by Hoppy on Jul 25, 2007 12:54:10 GMT -1
I have been informed that the EA are raising the cost of rod licences from April 2008 - to £70.00. There will be a further increase in 2009 taking it to £72.00.
It is reported that this is advertised in todays edition of the Daily Mirror. However i cant find mention of it on the EA website (whats new).
I just cant see how the EA can increase it.
What are we funding here?
How will this fit in with the Modernisation of Fishing changes?
How can the number of enforcement officers continue to decline?
Are we funding flood relief, waste management, fly tipping?
I will try to get a copy of the advertisement later. I cant get my head around this?
Hoppy
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Post by stumpyguy01 on Jul 25, 2007 13:03:13 GMT -1
I ain't buying one next season,cuz i'm going to buy a canoe instead and fish from that,cuz if you dont need a license for a canoe on the river then you surely don't need a license to fish from it either..
stumpy.....
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Post by SMW on Jul 25, 2007 16:37:00 GMT -1
I Don't think I will bother either, theres no fish to shout about here on my local river, the Association that I'm a member of don't give two FerHucks so whats the point.
I travel up to fish the Till a fair bit and you dont require a license there, if I do fish anywhere else I will get one on an as required basis. In-fact the way things are going I may even jack up the fishing altogether.
Daylight Robbery if you ask me, even Dick Turpin had the decency to wear a mask
SMW
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Post by kwilliams on Jul 25, 2007 16:38:55 GMT -1
don't try that one out Stumpy, the HIFE ( High Impact Fisheries Enforcement ) Guys will be waiting and follow you down the river till you land and ya cud lose your canoe as well to boot believe me
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Post by DAZ on Jul 25, 2007 16:39:58 GMT -1
 No ####### way!....You are joking.....Aren't you.  DAZ.
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Post by Glyn on Jul 25, 2007 17:41:08 GMT -1
They are on to a good money spinner here...if they go too far they will price themselves out of the revenue they take from us.. when its gets too much I will go bassing permanently, they have to understand we will only be pushed so far. Glyn  |
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Post by woodcockandsewin on Jul 25, 2007 18:47:47 GMT -1
These guys have got to justify their wages somehow...and it isn't on improved flood defences or bailiffs, increased fish stocks and reduced litter...but lower costs and higher income will always appeal to their masters; surely a plan like thats worth a pay rise.
or maybe the penny has finally dropped, and the increases are to fund the new hatcheries, habitat improvement schemes and a small army of license inspectors.
Don't wait up!!
W&S
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Post by Hoppy on Jul 25, 2007 19:03:30 GMT -1
This is right i i have purchased a copy of the article, which is in fact a legal notice found on page 63! They obviously didn't want us to find this. This compounds my dismay at the EA/W
So this is what it says...
Salmon & Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975
Rod and Line Fishing licence duties
Pursuant to Section 25 of and schedule 2 to the Salmon & Freshwater Fisheries Act 1975, as ammended, the Environment Agency gives notice of its intention to fix new Rod & Line licence duties for the periods 1/4/2008 to 31/3/2009, 1/4/2009 to 31/3/2010 and 1/4/2010 to 31/3/2011. The new duties will have effect throughout the Environment Agency aerea as described in Section 6(7) of the Environment Act 1995
Licence Type (Migratory)
Full Annual -
2008-2009 = £68.00
2009-2010 = £70.00
2010 - 2011 = £72.00
Right for the bit they didnt want us to see!
I can not find this anywhere on the EA site, more so its listed next to sex lines! They just didnt want us to see.
So its right all the licence fees are increasing, but more suprisingly the Game licence is increasing twice as much as the Coarse licence.
Its a total joke. If the EA emply 30 new Fisheries officers in Wales alone, with this extra money, it still wont be enough??
Hoppy
(I do have the figures for other tyoes of licences - concessionary, 8 day and 1 day etc.)
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Post by dangler on Jul 25, 2007 19:16:21 GMT -1
Glyn there is no escape. Don't forget that this shower want to tax/licence sea fishing as well.
Mike
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Post by highplains on Jul 25, 2007 20:34:28 GMT -1
Well folks if ever there was a reason for sending a PM to support the campaign - this is it.
I am beginning to feel like a bore (please don't it would really upset me!!)
The EA must think we don't care. We need thousands of names but each of those thousands is a single individual. Are you one of them yet? No? Well you should be. If you don't sign up, then you can not complain.
Highplains
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Post by wnion on Jul 25, 2007 20:42:19 GMT -1
I remember seeing these notices in the Liverpool& North Wales Daily Post a few years ago when there were price increases in the offing; I was wondering last year where they were publishing them now.
I wonder if Highplains can write a standard letter of objection that we can all use?
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Post by highplains on Jul 25, 2007 20:54:29 GMT -1
It's an honour to be asked.
Give me twenty four hours then PM me for a copy and I will send it to you.
One condition - sign up!
Am I getting pushy - sorry.
Regards.
Highplains
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Post by watermole on Jul 25, 2007 21:02:09 GMT -1
The fact that this has been very carefully tucked away in a corner where they hoped nobody would find it, plus the fact that responses must be in by 1st. September, just shows the sneaky, mean-underhanded ways that these people operate!
OBJECT!!!! TOO RIGHT I WILL OBJECT!!!
There are well-over 1,000 members of this forum out there, this is going to affect YOU, -and everyone else who fishes.
PLEASE-don't just read it and click onto something else, MAKE A NOTE OF THE ADRESS AND GET WRITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
...and when you meet other anglers, tell THEM about it, get them to write as well. Tell these people exactly what you think. Let them know how you feel!
This concerns you, so don't lie down and whimper, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!!!
No apologies whatsoever for the rant,
A VERY irate Watermole.
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Post by highplains on Jul 25, 2007 21:22:46 GMT -1
Please take care when objecting. Note that you are required to send a copy to another address. Failure to send the copy will invalidate the objection.
I love the way the *.*.*. make life so easy for us.
I am tempted to swear.
Highplains
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locko
Sewin Nut
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Post by locko on Jul 26, 2007 7:13:51 GMT -1
Hoppy
Is there any way you can move these campaign threads without the need to sign in.
I've mentioned it on the Prince Albert site and it just makes it easier to log on/read.
It may be a good idea for all club and association members out there to add it to their own club site
Regards Phil (locko)
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Post by dangler on Jul 26, 2007 7:40:35 GMT -1
Hoppy, can you post a list of all the proposed licence charges; concession, junior, Trout etc. since our objections should cover all of these.
Thanks.
Mike
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Post by Hoppy on Jul 26, 2007 7:55:47 GMT -1
Locko, I will make the Campaign thread easy to view for none members - hopefully they will be able to see it clearer. I have made the PAAS aware of it.
Dangler, i will list the costs later on today.
Hoppy
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cff
Parr
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Post by cff on Jul 26, 2007 9:15:21 GMT -1
The proposed EA rod licence fee increases were discussed at EAW's FERAC Meeting - a public meeting - held in Bala on 24th April.
The members of FERAC are all volunteers, mainly from within our fisheries community - every single one is hand-picked for his knowledge and expertize. Be assured - they are not yes-men.
The increases also were previously discussed by the West Wales Local Fisheries Group on 16th April and would have been available for the similar EA Groups elsewhere in Wales (and England). The FERAC Papers are public documents. I have copies, and of the various Meetings Minutes.
My point is that, whatever the fairness or otherwise of the increase, your news is not news to those of us who take an active part in trying to make the best of the management of our fisheries.
If you are not happy with the way our fisheries are being managed then you should put your heads over the parapit and get involved. There are seven LFGs in Wales. Who is on your yours? Who is your FERAC Member?
FERAC and LFG Members give their time and considerable effort to work on our behalf. They do not often get what they want or think may be right - but they certainly do not sit at home grizzling.
Think about it.
Garth Roberts
Minute Sec
West Wales LFG
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Post by Hoppy on Jul 26, 2007 9:55:31 GMT -1
Garth, I fully understand what you say in respect of this issue. Alot of anglers for one reason or not can not take part in LFGs or FERAC, some may not want to, some just dont have the time, others would be ineligible (visiting anglers). This is the first that i had heard about proposed increases in licence fees, i am on the EA's mailing list, and visit their site - i just havent seen details of this. I still cant find details on their site. It seems that the angler who is not on commitees or part of LFG just wont get to know, until it becomes law. This is what this thread is identifying (and then we only show anglers who have access to computers). I have no criticism of FERAC or LFG's whatsoever, they are the voice of anglers on the ground and do a great job. I know at least one of the FERAC members is not a yes man  Whilst i appreciate that it may not be new news to you, and to FERAC and LFG's, it would appear that anglers are not getting to hear about this? From the replies, anglers (And Club officials who use this site) from all over the coutnry appear to be in the dark - looking at the replies, Anglers from the Clwyd, Elwy, Severn, Mawddach & Wnion, Neath and the SW of England just dont know. Unfortunately the voice of the CFF isnt repeated across the country - and at present the information concerning the future of fisheries is only passed on via the CFF? It just isnt repeated outside West Wales. Whilst i agree that there are other LFG's the information just doesnt appear to get disseminated to anglers. I am trying to do something as are others on this site, at least 2 of whom applied for FERAC but were unsuccesful. We have attended meetings, and are involved in a campagin. I just havent the time to do more. Most anglers on this site are concerned, gravely concerned about the EA, be it in respect of enforcement or stocking or licence issues or fish stocks. I for one applaud the work of some FERAC members, but i just cant get my head around the EA. Hoppy |
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Post by paulwhite on Jul 26, 2007 10:36:31 GMT -1
TO ALL ANGLERS!!! I MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR WRITING THIS IN CAPITALS!! I HAVE STARTED AN E-PETITION AT THE FOLLOWING WEBSITE WHICH GOES LIVE WITHIN THE NEXT 5 DAYS. petitions.pm.gov.uk/listPLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE CAN EVERYONE SIGN IT!!! I'LL POST AGAIN WHEN IT IS LIVE AND GIVE THE EXACT LINK. THEY SHOULD NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS Cheers Paul |
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