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Post by SMW on Nov 26, 2007 21:25:20 GMT -1
It hadnt even crossed my mind to abandon my faithfull serf, we make a good team, Blackadder, Baldrick sort of thing. We have a few Cunning little plans for next season tucked up our very very old shirt sleeves Its a close call is that one. does the alternative to the rule 43 inmate cap match the new shirt ?
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Post by DAZ on Dec 17, 2007 10:49:01 GMT -1
Couple more for you B#stards to take the p#ss out of. ....Minus Glue and spit and every-fing. ;D First ever attempt!. Second ever attempt!.....Needs another coat of varnish this one. I've never tied this style of fly before so constructive criticism is most welcome,or any tips you'd like to pass on. DAZ. P.S....Why is it that flies always look better in the hand.
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Post by bobronte on Dec 17, 2007 11:35:52 GMT -1
Nice Daz, Very tasty Dee style? foreunners of irish shrimps until 'kelson' dismissed them for those flies with the most exotic rare bird materials in the wings, on top of underwings and a few more complications threw in ;D ;D how could an angler not like them (dee flies)...... R U going to use them? what are using for hackle as their is a few things you can use if ur interested BB PS have tried that superglue & spit and things are improving but now have fly stuck to my bottom lip...... ;D ;D
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Post by DAZ on Dec 17, 2007 12:05:31 GMT -1
PS have tried that superglue & spit and things are improving but now have fly stuck to my bottom lip...... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....You dull #######!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No....I'll never use um!.I tied them for someone who sent me a few flies on a Christmas card. ...Just thought I would return the gift with some thing I've never done before. Re; Hackle.....It's heron. I was given some heron a long time ago,and thats the reason I decided to have a go....I'd never use it otherwise.I do like them,and it was nice to have a play,but it's finding time in between everything else to tie them is the trouble.....I don't think I will be tying loads of um! ?.....Any info will be appreciated though for the future reference. See ya! mate. DAZ.
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Post by silverinvicta on Dec 17, 2007 14:38:38 GMT -1
Huh typical CRAAAAAAP........SICK OF SEEING IT... Bap....... ...( green "wiv" envy... you feckin plick) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by DAZ on Dec 17, 2007 14:41:08 GMT -1
Jeezzzzz!....Thanks mate. ;D
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Post by silverinvicta on Dec 17, 2007 14:41:31 GMT -1
BB said PS "have tried that superglue & spit and things are improving but now have fly stuck to my bottom lip"......
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ......
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Post by silverinvicta on Dec 17, 2007 14:44:13 GMT -1
Jeezzzzz!....Thanks mate. ;D IF THATS REFERRING TO ME....THEN YOUR WELCOME BAP.......ONLY TO MY FRIENDS.....
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moonshadow
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nearly time for that first cast
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Post by moonshadow on Dec 17, 2007 15:55:42 GMT -1
Hi Daz
Flies of sheer beauty, as Andy Grey says " Take a Bow Son"
Moonshadow
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Post by tuniwes on Dec 17, 2007 16:05:50 GMT -1
Very nice mate Ian
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Post by sewinfly on Dec 17, 2007 16:22:33 GMT -1
Excellent flies Daz, That second one is a CRACKER . Sewinfly
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Post by JT on Dec 17, 2007 17:14:49 GMT -1
Oh for heaven's sake Daz... not more of your scruffy efforts - crikey man... look at the angle of the JC!
Were you born with a vice for a knob?
Cracking matey.
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Post by annanangler on Dec 17, 2007 18:17:27 GMT -1
Very nice Daz Mike
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Post by DAZ on Dec 17, 2007 22:27:46 GMT -1
look at the angle of the JC! . Couple of people have asked me about that!. Why they tie them in like that I don't know ?,but thats the way they do it......I'd like to know though. DAZ.
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Post by SMW on Dec 18, 2007 20:32:37 GMT -1
Nice jobs there Daz, Like the top one, Akroyd Variant ?? Not to sure myself mate but could be many possibilities,
The Dee strip wing style fly, did, as in the name originate on the Dee (Scotland) and from what I can gather it is fairly fast and it is a shallower river than most of the other greats such as the Spey, Tay Tweed etc etc.
Here are a couple or three of possibilities that come to mind, but who knows. 1. The wings on these flies were/are tied fairly low and flat to the body, and are actually tied in a fashion that covers the sides of the hook/body at the tie in point, which in turn would make it difficult for Jungle Cock to sit right, so the JC was tide at a slightly dropped position
2. As said above, the wings are slung low to the body, so there may be an eliment of the fly twisting in the faster water, so the the JC was tied in underneath to act as some sort of stabaliser to keep it on a level plane.
3. Purely cosmetic.
SMW
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Post by DAZ on Dec 18, 2007 21:16:50 GMT -1
Cheers Steve. Like the top one, Akroyd Variant ?? Don't know mate It weren't intentional if it is.....Just got some bits and bobs and stuck um on. I done a fair bit of searching on the JC thing and can't find any info on why the do it,nothing stating it aids stability etc! etc!.I'm tending to lean more toward your assumption of....just for Cosmetic reasons ?. DAZ.
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Post by bobronte on Dec 19, 2007 19:36:03 GMT -1
have been meaning to come back to you Daz on this. As SMW says no real reference but belived because the wings where tied to create a scissor action on top the JC probably would interfere with it ..........forerunners of turbocones & all that turbulence perhaps ;D ;D ;D ;D though as we've discussed before on the JC thread the fish will also actually see those eyes, could be stabilisers aswell (good point SMW) but the overall silohette is the shrimpy look. ur bronze the shell, feelers & legs with heron and the JC as its eyes?? you could also argue that they are strategically place to aim at hook point or at least lead to it etc.. etc the trout family specially target eye details or heads on real food items to disable it .......so the ole stagers might have been doing alot more thinking than they where given credit for...........but unless we get a Doc Who time machine we will never be certain. By the way you could use the following for spey hackles if you are stuck :- Coot/waterhen body feathers Strip magpies centre tail, as in stripping it like goose biots Pheasant rump feathers or whiting now has spey capes which aren't bad especially at the dollar rate. The whiting being as close to the finer fibre of heron but the others esp. the magpie gives more web. BB
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Post by DAZ on Dec 19, 2007 20:28:04 GMT -1
Nice one mate. I brought this one up on the Salmon forum. What with the amount of materials placed on the underside of the hook on spey flies,and lots of the Dee style,hackles stroked down to the underside etc,and just a small roof of mallard,or what ever material is used...Surley it would fish upside down! (hook point up!)..But I don't think the eyes were positioned the way they are for this reason ?. It wouldn't make sence!.....Unless there were alot of p1ssed up shrimps about those days doing the back stroke! ;D DAZ.
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Post by Hoppy on Dec 20, 2007 7:43:50 GMT -1
Stonkers - really really good! We expect nothing less! Hoppy
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Post by DAZ on Dec 23, 2007 16:23:00 GMT -1
Another one!.....Snake this time. I love my Blue & Silver flies but, I've never added the Grizzle to them before myself.....I like it. I just hope the fish like it as much has me. DAZ.
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