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Post by highplains on Jan 10, 2006 11:42:33 GMT -1
As the new season approaches and we all contemplate the return of the Sewin and those magical nights on the river to come will you please give some thought to locations on the rivers that you know are poached.
I would like to build up a data base of rivers in Wales and the locations on those rivers we know are suffering from poaching at some time during the year.
Will you please pm me with details of the following:
Name of river Location of poached water; pool name or distance up or down stream from a known or obvious marker Type of poaching Time of year poaching takes place Regularity of poaching Names of regular poachers if known. (yes I know this is a dodgy one!!)
Please give this some thought and ask fellow anglers or those "in the know"
I have asked for PM's because I don't think it wise to advertise poached spots on the web.
When I have a database I will share the information with the EAW if I can gather enough info.
Please consider contributing seriously and please go out of your way to gather information. It will also be good to encourage others to join the forum.
Yes I an aware of the dangers of breaching the data protection regulations and will prepare information and presentation with sound advise.
Dare I ask that some of the EAW lads can contribute. All information provided will be treated in strict confidence.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Tight lines and thanks in anticipation.
Highplains
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Post by Hoppy on Jan 10, 2006 12:10:23 GMT -1
Highplains,
I think this is a very good idea, it shows our support to the EA in respect of our fisheries, it can only be a good thing. Im sure that users of this site will no doubt contribute.
I would also ask that anglers always contact the EA Hotline when encountering 'live' cases of poaching, and that users also contact yourself.
Im sure that you can address the data protection issues, good luck and i'll certainly keep my ears open and my eyes peeled!
A sound idea
Hoppy
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Post by highplains on Jan 10, 2006 19:25:46 GMT -1
Hoppy,
Thank you very much. Lets hope the forum members can come up with the goods!!
I have faith.
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards.
Highplains
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Post by Gwyniadun on Jan 13, 2006 21:55:06 GMT -1
Yes in principle a good idea....but am I not correct in thinking that the EA evaluate poaching incidents as low priority or not EA business.....in North Wales and on good authority i am informed that this week TWO FULLY QUALIFIED ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS have had their warrant cards taken of them and told that they no longer worked in fisheries....infact they now work on Waste Control...whatever that is...wonder if its Licence money that still pays their wages?
Gwyniadun
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Post by Hoppy on Jan 13, 2006 22:22:37 GMT -1
I just can't believe it, Gwyniadun, if that is right then what hope have fisheries got! Im sure Waste Control is a posh way of tackling fly tippers and the like.
Hopefully this will add to Brynle's case...I dont think i'll renew my licence, there wont be any bailiffs to check it...it seems i'm wasting my money.
Hoppy
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Post by highplains on Jan 14, 2006 17:31:16 GMT -1
All I can do is ask that you all make some effort to think about the areas where you believe poaching is carried out and then send me the details on a private email. That way it remains private. To date I have five locations where we know poaching regularly takes place and I have the details of three known and regular poachers. More are promised. If the EAW says there is no poaching problem then the least we can do is collate the details of where we know poaching is carried out.
Come on all please help. We all cherish our fishing so lets make some effort and get together to fight the apparent dilatory and disgraceful performance of the EA.
I look forward to hearing from you. PLEASE.
Regards.
Highplains
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Post by Aled on Jan 16, 2006 7:58:19 GMT -1
I Like the idea very much Highplains. I feel that those of us who do fish regularly have a responsibility to report all incidents to EA officials. Its our sport thats being affected. Cheers Aled
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Post by highplains on Jan 16, 2006 11:20:59 GMT -1
Aled,
Thanks, I look forward to receiving some details from you and hope others will follow your example.
If you know or strongly suspect that poaching occurs in certain spots then please pm me and I will add the details to the database. It does not matter if you do not know who is doing the poaching.
I am categorizing the information I get in terms of reliability. If a number of people come up with the same spot then the chances are it is poached and the list will show it as reliable. If you just think its poached, the list will show it as possible. I hope that explains the idea. The whole thing will remain highly confidential. Nobody will know who has provided details.
Please let me know as the information comes to mind.
Many thanks.
Highplains
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Post by highplains on Jan 17, 2006 20:51:51 GMT -1
Gwyniadun,
Your comments are valid and unfortunately what you allege seems also to be true.
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS REQUEST.
Please let me have the relevant details. I am sure you have good examples! Please set a good example and send me the details.
I look forward to your PM.
Regards.
Highplains
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Post by wnion on Jan 18, 2006 10:08:44 GMT -1
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Post by Gwyniadun on Jan 18, 2006 16:06:24 GMT -1
Wnion, Hi, not long now before we see those silver bullets!!! The Freedom of Information Act has already been used. I will report on this when appropriate, it is a great way of delving into the truth. Highplains. Not 'seems'. It is true, hence the reason I posted it. I have no need to PM you as the matter I referr to is already being attended to. If you feel that I am not setting a good example by this, then say so. Would you please be so kind as to reply to my post directed to you , the EA thread on Page 5. Gwyniadun
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Post by highplains on Jan 18, 2006 19:45:51 GMT -1
Gwyniadun,
Thanks for your comments which seem to indicate a misunderstanding on your part. I have not requested a PM with regards to ‘the matters you refer being attended to.’ I am only seeking details of known or suspected poaching spots and/or the poachers if they are known. I am sure that matters you are addressing are being dealt with most ably and you have my 100% support. Nice one!
With regard to your question on page 5 of the EA thread. I have no idea who is representing the S&T in any capacity. I could not see any other question directed to myself to which I have failed to respond. I apologise for failing to do so on the S&T earlier.
Regards and tight lines for the new season.
Highplains
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Post by Gwyniadun on Jan 18, 2006 20:00:44 GMT -1
Highplains,
Must have been the way I read your message then, we'll leave it at that, theres no time to 'pregnant dog' as the forum is only interested in 'facts'.
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With regard to your question on page 5 of the EA thread. I have no idea who is representing the S&T in any capacity. I could not see any other question directed to myself to which I have failed to respond. I apologise for failing to do so on the S&T earlier.
This is what I was referring to, its in a message directed at Torgoch and I was curious:
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Thanks for your comments, lets hope something good happens as a result. I wait with keen anticipation to see the results of the Welsh S&T efforts after having been handed command of the cause. Lets hope they are successful.
Gwyniadun
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Post by highplains on Jan 19, 2006 11:20:25 GMT -1
Gwyniadun
I thought you had said that this was the case, clearly I am wrong so perhaps you can enlighten me?
Thanks in anticipation.
I look forward to hearing from you regarding the poachers and poaching issue.
I will post updates in terms of numbers only. No specific details.
Regards.
Highplains
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Post by Gwyniadun on Jan 19, 2006 20:15:35 GMT -1
No Highplains I did not say Welsh S&T, 'North Wales Branch Salmon and Trout Association', we must be careful , precise and accurate with what we post.
As a result of your post , I thought that there may be someone from the Welsh S&TA involved, I wanted to know just so that matters are not duplicated.
Gwyniadun
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Post by highplains on Jan 23, 2006 11:19:50 GMT -1
Gentlemen, Just in case this thread is beginning to loose its sense of direction a reminder as to the object of the exercise
As the new season approaches and we all contemplate the return of the Sewin and those magical nights on the river to come will you please give some thought to locations on the rivers that you know are poached.
I would like to build up a data base of rivers in Wales and the locations on those rivers we know are suffering from poaching at some time during the year.
Will you please pm me with details of the following:
Name of river Location of poached water; pool name or distance up or down stream from a known or obvious marker Type of poaching Time of year poaching takes place Regularity of poaching Names of regular poachers if known. (yes I know this is a dodgy one!!)
Please give this some thought and ask fellow anglers or those "in the know"
I have asked for PM's because I don't think it wise to advertise poached spots on the web.
When I have a database I will share the information with the EAW if I can gather enough info.
Please consider contributing seriously and please go out of your way to gather information. It will also be good to encourage others to join the forum.
Yes I an aware of the dangers of breaching the data protection regulations and will prepare information and presentation with sound advise.
Dare I ask that some of the EAW lads can contribute. All information provided will be treated in strict confidence.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Tight lines and thanks in anticipation.
Highplains
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