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DT v WF
Jan 22, 2008 20:25:26 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 22, 2008 20:25:26 GMT -1
Being new to fly fishing I get confused by all the different options available to me. I have got the hang of the different weight lines to match to your rod ;D but have now come across Weight forward, Double taper and shooting head lines HELP Any advice would be gratefully appreciated. I will mainly be fishing on the eastern Cleddau with the odd day here and there at a local resevoir Thanks Griffo
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DT v WF
Jan 22, 2008 20:28:51 GMT -1
Post by macca on Jan 22, 2008 20:28:51 GMT -1
hi griffo i think most people use WF lines i always have never even saw a DT ;D you cant go wrong with a WF its just what make of line u want to buy thats even more confusing i swear snowbee floating is my latest line havent used it yet but it comes highly recommened on here ger
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 0:08:43 GMT -1
Post by buzzerman on Jan 23, 2008 0:08:43 GMT -1
snowbee prestige is a wonderfull line great presentation weight forward is all 9i would wory about for now mate
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 8:41:19 GMT -1
Post by JT on Jan 23, 2008 8:41:19 GMT -1
Griffo.
Some simple info and advice is as follows:
DT lines afford softer/better presentation - nice for dry flies and small streams.
WF lines "load" your rod more easily (a good feature at night) and you should be able to achieve greater distance quicker but with a slight compromise on the presentation element.
For the E. Cleddau (I only have the Slebech estate water to base this on) I would suggest a WF 7/8 depending on the size of flies you plan to use, whether you're planning on using sinking poly leaders etc.
You could, and some do, get away with a DT6 and do well but the majority of sea trout anglers use WF lines. I would say that the W.Cleddau is of a size where light DT lines could work but the bits of the E.Cleddau I've fished tend to be broader and less "streamy".
What adds to this is your planning to go to a local reservoir - again this would be more suited to WF lines than DT if you're fishing teams of nymphs or lures.
There's nothing wrong with buying a mill-end or cheap DT to compare when opportunities arise but I'd recommend the WF profile.
Hope this helps,
Jon
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 10:53:34 GMT -1
Post by sewinfly on Jan 23, 2008 10:53:34 GMT -1
Out of interest has anyone fished a DT 7 sinker etc,for fishing deep pools close in rather than the conventional WF sinker in where long casting is not required.With the DT a lot more weight is towards the front. Let me know. Sewinfly.........
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 12:02:10 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 23, 2008 12:02:10 GMT -1
thanks jt. I am hoping to join a club with a 3 mile stretch just above the slebech estate. Got a meeting tomorrow night so should be all sorted by then. They do day tickets for far less than the Slebech stretch so any time you fancy a day or 2 down this way let me know and I'll get it sorted for you. Thanks
Griffo
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 12:03:36 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 23, 2008 12:03:36 GMT -1
Cheers buzzerman will be checking out the snowbee over the weekend.
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DT v WF
Jan 23, 2008 12:58:32 GMT -1
Post by JT on Jan 23, 2008 12:58:32 GMT -1
I will take you up on that Griffo, thanks.
Jon
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DT v WF
Jan 24, 2008 22:14:30 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 24, 2008 22:14:30 GMT -1
JT give me a shout nearer the time.
Griffo
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ianw
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DT v WF
Jan 25, 2008 1:33:01 GMT -1
Post by ianw on Jan 25, 2008 1:33:01 GMT -1
Hi Sewinfly, Just looking at your post and having a think. It's a double edge sword really. If your only casting short distances there would be little difference in the sink rate of WF versus DT. If anything the DT may have a slightly longer taper and sink slower than the WF unless its a compensated line where the tip and the belly sink at the same rate. If you have the head out a WF may sink faster as there is less drag against the thin running line which would make it less likely for the current to hold the line up in the water column. If you like to experiment you could get a cheap (mill end type) WF sinker and cut the front taper off. Unless you are fishing small flies as long as you aim 2 foot higher than the water level it will straighten out before it hits. I'm just an old heretic really Best regards, Ian
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DT v WF
Jan 25, 2008 16:23:23 GMT -1
Post by davepurslow66 on Jan 25, 2008 16:23:23 GMT -1
If you're fishing small streams and because of the short distance needed to cast you can cut a DT in half and use it to fill two reels
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DT v WF
Jan 25, 2008 17:58:18 GMT -1
Post by sewinfly on Jan 25, 2008 17:58:18 GMT -1
Well lads plenty of food for thought there.I think I am going to try a DT sinker and see how I get on with it. Anybody recommend a DT 7-8 wt let me know. Cheers Sewinfly
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DT v WF
Jan 28, 2008 21:13:40 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 28, 2008 21:13:40 GMT -1
I have been told now by 3 different people that WF is harder to cast than DT. Now all 3 of these I would describe as being from the old school of fly fishing but I am never one to dismiss any tips or advice given. Has anyone had experience with both types and able to give me advice? Griffo
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DT v WF
Jan 28, 2008 21:18:49 GMT -1
Post by flashyal on Jan 28, 2008 21:18:49 GMT -1
WF lines are a lot easier to cast Griffo, you load up the rod a lot quicker and because of the profile of the rod you can cast it further, useful for seatrout fishing at night when you want to hit the far bank. DT lines are harder to cast, usually used when delicacy and shorter casts are required especially when dry fly fishing.
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DT v WF
Jan 28, 2008 21:43:34 GMT -1
Post by silverinvicta on Jan 28, 2008 21:43:34 GMT -1
Griffo... I use both DT and wt forward... it's down to personal choice...For smaller rivers I would prefer a DT..As has already been said I will turn it round when one end goes... one point though quite often the end that sinks makes a pretty good sink tip and can come in handy I;m tight. ;D For any distance work I use a wt forward.. not that you cant cast a DT distance, just that you don't need as much line in the air with an average WTf and if you do as i do.. and this is a personal choice, i ain't recommending it i step up a weight for the rod I'm using so it loads a tad quicker.. handy if you ain't a good roll caster OR your rod dint roll cast well, this happens. I always carry both for over 5wt rods but under a 5wt i only bother with DT's.. a good caster can put as much line out with a DT as a WT f... and MOST modern lines will cast the full distance with out much trouble... I am a reasonable caster, would never class myself as good ;D ;D ;D..try both if possible...If you only want to buy one, go for the WF.... they ain't that hard to cast, and you would be learning with one. There are a lot of GOOD casters on this forum, and they may disagree with what comes next... buy a well known mid priced line or buy from a discount shop... and then when its knackered step up a grade or when you feel your ready. I do feel however that i get a tad better presentation with a Dt Silverinvicta
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DT v WF
Jan 29, 2008 17:11:17 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Jan 29, 2008 17:11:17 GMT -1
Cheers Silverinvicta. I might just as you say try both and see where that takes me Griffo
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DT v WF
Feb 7, 2008 11:50:12 GMT -1
Post by rio on Feb 7, 2008 11:50:12 GMT -1
At night with a bit of practice you will feel the overhang of the WF outdside the tip, thin running line in your hauling hand. This may give you a better idea of the distance you are casting. If the lines conform to AFTMA ratings then 30ft of a # wt DT will be just as heavy/light as a #wt WF. A DT will tend to turn over better because with out getting to technical, the top leg of the loop has more mass to pull against because the bottom leg is heavier. There is no thin running line as with a WF.
You can forget any meaningful mends with the WF head outside the tip.
For what its worth, on my floating lines for night sewin fishing i have a 60+ft head WF which offers the best of both worlds.
I would go against the advise given an buy the best line you can afford. A crap line is always far harder to cast than a good line, mill ends are always a gamble. Lines are far more critical for good casting than rods.
cheers,
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DT v WF
Feb 7, 2008 17:22:25 GMT -1
Post by Griffo on Feb 7, 2008 17:22:25 GMT -1
Thanks Rio. Have been having a look at a few different lines in my local tackle shop but impossible to tell just by looking. I think I am going to save me pennies and get the best I can afford in the week or so before the 1st April Cheers for advice all
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