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Post by skippy on Sept 12, 2007 19:35:39 GMT -1
Anybody know how to do this properly on a Scierra XDA ? I acquired a spare spool recently but its RH wind and I cannot fathom how to change it over if indeed you can.I took the circlip off the spool and was faced with a curious round plastic thing which when turned over revealed a number of small free floating round metal thingies.I messed about with these yet have failed miserably to acheive anything.I haven't got the manuals for my XDA's anymore and they're discontinued now. Can anybody help or have I blundered irrecoverably ? Skippy  |
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Post by shocker on Sept 12, 2007 23:53:31 GMT -1
sounds like you took the bearing apart!Cant remember how I did mine and cant find the box but will keep looking.Try e mailing Scierra and Okuma,they might send you a schematic........... good luck and no more tinkering!  mechanical shocks  |
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Post by bobronte on Sept 13, 2007 9:20:43 GMT -1
Skippy,
With most modern reels that is the ball-bearing hub/race.
after removing the circlip take the race out turn over and put back in.
Attach clip again and you should now have changed the race from RH to LH.
It should be rounded on one end and flat at the other, but don't fiddle with the individual races as they are a complete pain to place back in,
its only the complete race that needs turned over to change winding direction.
regards bb
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Post by skippy on Sept 13, 2007 13:12:50 GMT -1
Bob
What you described is what I was expecting but unfortunately didn't find.Whatever I found is clearly not meant to be turned over.The round metal thingies look like they are supposed to fit into holes set into the outside of this thing.Theres one "set" inclined in one direction and one in the other so my logic says swap them round until they are going in the opposite direction.Didn't work & there seems to be too many holes for things but I know I didn't drop any.Its a funny looking arrangement altogether...the "cutouts" for want of a better word are not symetrical at all.There is no discernible pattern which might give a ham fisted non engineer cocky dicky tinkerer like me a clue as to where to start.
I think I may have done something I wasn't supposed to !
And why do reels still come set for RH wind ? Surely nowadays the majority of people wind left handed out of choice ?
Skippy
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Post by bobronte on Sept 13, 2007 17:18:11 GMT -1
Skippy, I am not aware of your said reel in particuliar but if its a bearing race with the wee long rollers seemingly hanging onto diddle swat in the grooves then its seem as most - don't panic if some seem hanging out more than others I think its just where they feel comfortable!! Turn the race over and set in opposite way - I don't beleive the cyclinders are specially fitted into each slot and if put back in will not make a difference if they aren't in their original slots (hope that makes sense ). There should be a metal casing on outside, maybe it has not come out when removing race.? The other way some modern reels have the bearing on the shaft held there with C-clip and small rubber ring, remove c-clip and slip rubber ring up shaft to allow bearing race to be removed and turned over and slip ring back into recess and re-attach clip. i think changing thing has caught a few of us out when most reels became 1 way ball-bearing, disc drag etc.. etc.. as long as no parts go walk about you will get it sorted and the 1st change over is where you learn the most Any Okuma's I had where like the 1st explanation (bearing race in spool) and would think scierras have the same inners. The whole bearing race has a metal outer which is octoganal along some of the body with plastic insert containing the rollers (wee cyclinders) inserted into grooves in the plastic, this is the part as a whole that you should be dealing with. Hope thats some help BB |
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Post by skippy on Sept 13, 2007 19:09:32 GMT -1
Bob
From your description I am clearly dealing with the bearing race but I tried the turny over thing and the spool wouldnt go back on the reel so its got to be something to do with the position of the cylinder thingies.
Anyway...having had enough I went to put the thing away & trod on another cylinder so I clearelky DID lose a bit when I first took the thing apart.This one is highly magnetised & caused me a few problems but I eventually got it all back together following your advbice that it didn't matter too much about precise location.
Migod it worked ! Not brilliantly so there is more tinkering to do but at least now the sopool freewheels when wound forwards and the drag engages when wound backwards in my left hand.Huzzah !
I will persevere because I have to.Its no good to me RH wind or knackered by well intentioned but clueless messing about on my part.I was expecting a "take it out,turn it over,put it back" arrangement which is easy not this nightmare.I have however started so I will finish.
Thanks for the advice.Times like this I wish I had an engineering background OR that all reels came set up for LH wind.
Skippy
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Post by redrobbo on Sept 15, 2007 9:02:48 GMT -1
Skippy
it is very simple to convert your reel all you have to do is move each cylinder up one notch
its a bit fiddly getting the springs in.
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Post by bobronte on Sept 15, 2007 20:15:16 GMT -1
Skippy, while looking up T&S for another forum reqeust your reel's write up highlighted not so easy to follow instructions convertion RH2LH and something about removing retaining clip. The clips need some sort of tool?? (T&S FEB'05) My instruction would seem meaningless if this type of bar-steward type fiddly conversation is presented for the everyday angler - who has special tools to remove these bearings clips etc?? sorry Skippy for my earlier advice but still beleive it can be sorted Does anyone have the following like so www.scierra.com/?product=19and do they have a better idea of how to fix it ....... if all else fails Skippy Svensden Sports the distributors in Cardiff are bound to provide a complete bearing to fit in properly if yours is still being a bugger......they are OK when it comes to spin reel parts Hope you get it sorted BB |
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Post by shocker on Sept 16, 2007 7:08:24 GMT -1
Sorry mate,I got every other reel box I ever bought except the bloody XDA.Cant remember there being a tool..........I know the larger okuma LA reels had a little bent steel thingy for the change over,and they are the same manufacturer,more or less.I'll get the reel out and reverse engineer it when I get a minute  |
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Post by skippy on Sept 16, 2007 18:18:35 GMT -1
Gentlemen
I am obliged to you all.I have had a word with my "ingineer" mate who looked at me the way you look at small children being stupid and explained everything.I didn't understand any of it but he promised to have a look but this has now become a matter of pride.
A few things bother me
Bob
Your link says the XDA contains a "one way bearing" which sounds ominous.
Redrobbo
Er..what springs ? and I could only move them up one notch if I knew where they were to begin with.That particular knowledge is now long gone.
I suspect I have b****d it up but we shall see.Keep the tips coming unless I declare it sorted or binned.
Skippy
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Post by shocker on Sept 27, 2007 16:22:26 GMT -1
skip,finally found the schematic drawing for the XDA,so if still needed PM meyour email and I'll send it schematic shocktastic |
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Post by skippy on Oct 5, 2007 20:22:38 GMT -1
Shocksie
PM on its way.Spool still misbehaving.
Skippy
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