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Post by clown on Apr 5, 2005 8:24:47 GMT -1
Lads quick one, for a tight seatrout stream would you buy a 'weight forward' or a 'double taper' i'm still confused the rod weight is 6 some say get weight 7 to load it quicker some same stick to 6. Alot say the 444 is miles better than the 555 any suggestions. wf or dt??? cheers.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Apr 5, 2005 12:28:18 GMT -1
If you're casting on a tight stream then a weight forward may well load the rod quicker, especially if you're restricted in the amount of line you can get into the backcast. However, it does depend a lot on the rod you're using whether or not it's advisable to increase the load by going a line size heavier. Also, if you're going to be fishing spots where a roll cast is the only option - then the DT might be the way to go!
The 444s are lovely lines - I had some for years both WF and DT, and they remain supple. I've got a WF555 Ghost Tip which seems a little 'harsher' in profile and construction and seems more geared to casting distance. On a small stream I'd go 444 in preference to 555 - but my first choice would be Snowbee XS.
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Apr 8, 2005 8:22:26 GMT -1
Firslty line weight; this would largely depend on the rivers you fish and your casting competency. If you fish small rivers and/or are a beginner then you would be aided by the quicker loading of a slightly heavier line. If you are a good caster and/or fish larger rivers then you may not need to overload. Saying that however I'm an ok caster and overload a lot of my rods. A funny thing is that a lot of lines are actually too light for their actual rating and it isn't until you get a lot of line out that your rod starts to load. Also a heavier line makes casting heavier flies easier, less hinging on the cast.
DT advice same as Hoppy's, sound advice indeed.
I would always opt for a WF line though, as it would cover more of my fishing scenarios than a DT would, and I definitely wouldn't equip myself with both sets!
As for Cortland, great choice will last you years even if you treat them badly as I do!! for me the 555's are ok, but I prefer the 444's. the coating are more supple on the 444's and just feel nicer. the peach floater in the 444 is my all time favourite. and you can't beat the ghost tip, my favourite sea-trout line (I have 3 which I cut down to different lengths, but beware doing so affects their casting weight!!).
The Quick Descents on the 555 and the little tunny line are superb and are probably better than the 444's equivelants.
All the best.
Steffan.
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Post by clown on Apr 8, 2005 9:44:38 GMT -1
thanks so much lads. do you put on poly sink tips on the 444 floater or make your own 4ft tips , is clear better than dark brown??
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Apr 8, 2005 11:23:29 GMT -1
Hi Clown,
firstly there are the multi-tip lines, which offer varrying sink levels. But similar to the poly tips in the longer lengths I'm not a great fan of them as they're not the smoothest of things at times to get through your rod rings.
Also the heavier poly tips can be clumsy to cast and can hinge quite a bit.
The thing is that sink tip lines have been mathematically weighted and the weight distributed through the line to make casting them easier. The same could be said for floating lines, as such displacing the balance if something originally unintended is added.
However, you are unlikely to achieve much difficulty until you try the heavier salmon poly-tips and in the heavier sinking grains. Also worth noting that if you are going to try them; it would probably best to opt for the salmon ones as I believe the core strength of the trout leaders aren't sufficient.
Splicing is an option but be careful to make the join strong, for obvious reasons.
Peronally I would much rather see you invest in a sink tip line, they are quite cheap now and there are alternatives to Cortland, try Scierra or Airflo.
As for colour; for night fishing I really think it makes no difference at all. But as with most tackle it won't be used just for night fishing, as such it would be best to opt for a line you would see as covering most of your fishing scenarios. Please not their sinking rates though, darker colours are usually faster.
Steffan.
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Post by clown on Apr 11, 2005 16:09:04 GMT -1
thanks stephan, it's all good advice, great shot with the fish couldn't help downloading it and takeing a closer look.
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