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Post by Hoppy on Jul 30, 2007 15:25:19 GMT -1
Dear All, Sewin2 (aka Illtyd Griffiths) has kindly negotiated a deal with Wellard & Scott in respect of his highly rated 'Sewincaster lines' Illtyd has organised that for the month of August anyone buying one of these lines either online at www.wellardandscott.co.uk or by telephone on 01566 780 393 will be donating £10 towards the fund. The lines are specifically manufactured for seatrouting but are also excellent lines both for single handed salmon fishing or for temperate climate salt water fishing. They are all 8wts and come in: Floater 15' clear tip 15' type 3 tip 24' type 6 tip All the lines turn over big flies due to the short front taper. Having read reviews by TT on Illtyds site, these are top rate lines, and by purchasing one you will be supporting a great cause. Hoppy ;D
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Post by Simon, SJF or Otter Startler on Jul 31, 2007 0:04:42 GMT -1
As a note, I've been fishing two of these lines for a few weeks now and am really impressed with the way they work. Great turn over, nice loading & ready looped.
I fished tonight with two 2" tubes and managed 5 passes down a pool without one wind knot! Pity I didn't have any fish either. I'm using mine on a 7 wt rod, but they will do an 8 wt too, the back profile is quite gentle giving a long "sweet spot".
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Post by fishtail on Jul 31, 2007 10:34:39 GMT -1
I noticed these lines on the forum a few weeks ago and had a look at the Wellard and Scott web site for more details. I cannot make any sense of the site. There are some fishing items there but I cannot find the lines at all. Am I being a bit thick? Illtyd won't sell many lines if my experience is anything to go by! Could someone post details of prices please. Steve
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Post by Hoppy on Jul 31, 2007 11:00:39 GMT -1
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Post by macca on Jul 31, 2007 11:02:15 GMT -1
i think i saw them on the site for £45 if u have a look around in the different topics somebody posted a direct web addresss on here where u can see them
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Post by fishtail on Jul 31, 2007 12:07:24 GMT -1
Thanks Hoppy,
That's exactly what I was looking for.
Macca,
You are right, £45.00. Seems about right for a specialist line.
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moonshadow
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nearly time for that first cast
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Post by moonshadow on Aug 7, 2007 7:32:01 GMT -1
Hi Folks
As someone who purchased one of these lines I can confirm they are superb. It is the easiest and best line I have used. If you fish large tubes they really do make life easy, which in my case means I can fish with confidence and not have to worry about struggling with my cast in the dark. I will be taking advantage of this offer and purchasing a full floater which between the sink tip should cover most of my night time fishing situations.
Moonshadowl
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Post by fishtail on Aug 7, 2007 10:54:14 GMT -1
Ordered a Sewincaster line via the above link and received it three days later. Good service from Wellard and Scott. First impressions are that it's a smooth and supple line, I particularly like the pre formed loops at the ends.
Off to the Borders next week to fish the Till and Whiteadder. Hope to give the line a good stretch and report back on a successful week.
Steve
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Post by woodcockandsewin on Sept 2, 2007 12:52:52 GMT -1
Bought a full set after realising I've been doing it all wrong.
I hope this means another £40 on its way to the fund.
Look out sea trout, I'm unstoppable now.
W&S
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Post by luapwahs on Sept 3, 2007 16:18:59 GMT -1
The lines appear to be available as AFTM 8 only so are not suitable for small rivers and I dont know anywhere I would use a no 8 for ST. I fish a small river and use a DT5. I can cast 1 1/2 inch scoobies OK. I am sure the lines will be useful in some situations but not for general ST fishing. Tight lines to all Luap
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Sept 3, 2007 20:44:42 GMT -1
The lines appear to be available as AFTM 8 only so are not suitable for small rivers and I dont know anywhere I would use a no 8 for ST. I fish a small river and use a DT5. I can cast 1 1/2 inch scoobies OK. I am sure the lines will be useful in some situations but not for general ST fishing. Tight lines to all Luap A WF8 not useful for general ST fishing? may I suggest that your DT5 is in the minority Luap, whereas a WF8 would be the norm? hence for their production in this weight. TT.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Sept 3, 2007 21:47:53 GMT -1
On the 'major' West Wales river a WF8, or equivalent is the 'go to' line for anglers who regularly see the night through for sewin. Now there are many rivers, usually smaller, spate rivers where many anglers will fish, very successfully, with 5 or 6 wt lines - in West Wales I can think of the Nevern or the Cleddau - and smaller flies. However, for the larger rivers where anglers are targeting popuations of larger fish it is more appropriate to use tackle, rods, lines and leaders that will turn over flies of a size appropriate to larger fish and the methods required to present those flies at the levels, distance and speed where those fish will take. It really is a case of 'horses for courses'. What may be common practice on one river may well be perceived as extreme on another. It's all part of the 'joy' of sea trout fishing!
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Post by luapwahs on Sept 6, 2007 8:36:40 GMT -1
Hi Guys Thanks for your comments. As has been said it is horses for courses. However in the west country, I can't think of any rivers where a 5 would not be advantagous over a heavy line. Possibly useful on some beats on the lower Dart maybe. A further point to make. Charles McLaren believed in "the long rod and the light line". I believe the modern equivalent is heavy rod and light line. Using a no 5 rod of todays weight is a recipe for missed/lightly hooked fish and all the bad language that that generates. Where 10-15 yds is as far as you need to cast, a heavy rod will cast a 5 line adequately and sea trout will have something to hook themselves against. A DT helps a bit with the casting as well as making roll casting easier. Hope that helps. It hasnt helped me this season which has been dreadful but you cant catch fish tha arent there. Tight lines to us all.
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Post by sewinbasher on Sept 6, 2007 12:09:20 GMT -1
Hi Guys Thanks for your comments. As has been said it is horses for courses. However in the west country, I can't think of any rivers where a 5 would not be advantagous over a heavy line. Possibly useful on some beats on the lower Dart maybe. A further point to make. Charles McLaren believed in "the long rod and the light line". I believe the modern equivalent is heavy rod and light line. Using a no 5 rod of todays weight is a recipe for missed/lightly hooked fish and all the bad language that that generates. Where 10-15 yds is as far as you need to cast, a heavy rod will cast a 5 line adequately and sea trout will have something to hook themselves against. A DT helps a bit with the casting as well as making roll casting easier. Hope that helps. It hasnt helped me this season which has been dreadful but you cant catch fish tha arent there. Tight lines to us all. I don't know if it's still the case but at one time Arthur Foxon used a #5 on a Winston 8' 9" for all his sea trout fishing on the Elwy. Not a big river but many would fish heavier.
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Post by jj1 on Sept 6, 2007 15:03:06 GMT -1
for most of my fishing on the lower tywi i now use 5 and 6 weights! if anything my catches have increased due to the better presentation, accuracy and softer touch down afforded by the lighter line, so please illtyd, can you ask your manufacturers to produce your lines in 6weights!! jonathan
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Sept 6, 2007 15:16:05 GMT -1
for most of my fishing on the lower tywi i now use 5 and 6 weights! Don't you find that the larger and heavier flies hinge with the 5/6 weight lines JJ? especially on the distances covered on the lower Towy? Or are they very fast blanks you're using? TT.
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Post by jj1 on Sept 6, 2007 15:40:15 GMT -1
an emg enigma 9.6 for a six will do the job brilliantly, casting flies to around 1 3/4 inches is easy enough as long as you use the right fly line, eg cortland blue etc,droppers to 11/4inch are also no problem as long as you balance the cast out properly to stop any hinging along the line and leaders length and 25 + meters is possible, granted not all will be able to do it but the benefits far outweigh the downsides and the sport you get on the smaller lighter rod as you probably well know is fantastic. jj
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Post by sewin2 on Sept 7, 2007 12:01:06 GMT -1
I would agree that obviously 6 weight lines are ideal for day fishing with smallish flies unless the wind is troublesome. this is an approach I sometimes use myself and actually favour a 5 weight. This was not really a consideration when I designed the SewinCaster range of lines. The SewinCaster lines were and still are specifically manufactured to load rods quickly on a short line (longish back taper)which one needs for night fishing and to turn over big flies if need be (shortened front taper). They also take the figure of eight retrieve favoured by most sea trout fishermen without either cracking or tangling. They Spey Cast well and are very useful lines for single hand salmon casting as heavy salmon flies do not present a problem. The design criteria would need to be changed a lot to make 6 weights and my aspirations for the lines would have to change! It is certainly something I will consider in future but will take some planning,
Illtyd
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Post by woodcockandsewin on Sept 7, 2007 16:40:56 GMT -1
Hi Illtyd ,
I had a go with he floater and int sink tip last night...I have to say they are a revelation to me...it's all so easy...unfortunately the fish didn't entirely agree, but we managed a 2lber.
James
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Post by sewin2 on Sept 7, 2007 20:46:05 GMT -1
Hi James, I'm g;ad you liked the lines - the fish do like them I can assure you!! Keep trying,
Illtyd
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