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Post by balticflyfisher on Jan 6, 2007 18:48:03 GMT -1
Guys, please excuse me for "jumping" on but I would like to pass on some info/tips to you before you go: Licences - it is required to have a coastal licence in DK, they can be bought via the net just hereFlies - lots of discussion going on about them. IMHO you just need a few: grey frede, shrimps (honey and white) and a copper fyggi (Fyn special designed by Claus Eriksen, "go fishing" Odense) plus a black thing (wooly bugger) for cod as the evening draws in. Most of my sea trout are caught either on the grey frede or on a copper fyggi. Now to the patterns: honey shrimpgrey fredewhite shrimpcopper fyggiThe white shrimp recipe is in Danish, but its pretty straight forward and the picture should be enough. Basically its just a shrimp with a white body and predominate eyes (important trigger). The Fyggi recipe is also in Danish (sorry couldnt find one in English). I tie them on Partridge shrimp hooks size 4 or 6, using copper dubbing for the body and pink or white rubber legs for the fealers. I rib the body with copper wire, which causes the fly to enter the water easily. I brush out the copper dubbing on the underside. You may want to also tie a pink variant of the white shrimp. If we have a normal spring (whats normal nowadays) then may is probably to late for ragworm, they are normally on the move end of march beginning of april. Hope I was able to help you out. stuart
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Post by apprentice2 on Jan 7, 2007 8:26:31 GMT -1
Thanks Stuart,
All advice is useful, particularly yours as I am having real trouble with ragworm tyings!
Brian
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Post by balticflyfisher on Jan 7, 2007 9:51:43 GMT -1
@all - if you don't manage to have time to tie lots of flies by May, "go-fishing" in Odense has a fantastic selection of SW sea trout flies. However the shop is quite difficult to find, so it might be a good idea if one of you orders a car with a Navi or alternatively takes his/her TomTom with them. @brian my daughter Silja makes ragworms out of cactus chenille (3mm) or pseudo herl in a brown or peacock colour (she even has a PINK one, deadly in winter!!!). Trim away a few fibres on both sides of the core (of the herl or fritz) for a clean tight tie in. Tie in at bend of hook and allow to extend approx 10cm over the rear of the hook (extended "tail") and twist it with a hi-speed twirler. Fold in half over a needle, pinch, remove needle tie off and your done. Stuart oops sorry almost forgot the most important bit (added to text in italics above)
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Post by SMW on Jan 7, 2007 10:02:09 GMT -1
Thanks for the Info Stuart, the more we know, the better our chances.
Starlmagwonder
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Post by IanMcD on Jan 7, 2007 10:41:10 GMT -1
Local knowledge is always good to get.... and thanks for the limited set.
I'll certainly tie a few of those before I go (with my limited skills they are bound to be accidental variants but will hopefully temp something ;D )
TL's IanMcD
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Post by balticflyfisher on Jan 7, 2007 11:00:12 GMT -1
Ian et all - there is no rocket science surrounding catching sea trout in the sea... ... they are easy to catch IF they are there. The problem is locating them, once found most of the time they will aggressively attack almost anything.
Stay on the move also whilst fishing, cast retrieve, move one step to the right cast retrieve etc etc.... If you haven't seen signs of a fish (the little "silver wink" under water, or fish jumping or head and tailing (yes!!)) or had a take within lets say 1 hour max 2, then the chances are they are either not along the stretch you are fishing or they are further out beyond reach. So move to a new location. Its all about finding the little buggers - mobility is the key. Having found them they often stay in the location for a few days or possibly a week or so.
Local knowledge is a GREAT help; although I fish the Danish coast regularly (most weekends from Sept thro to May) I do not know Fyn very well so I cannot give you any valid tips.
stuart
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Post by balticflyfisher on Jan 7, 2007 11:04:31 GMT -1
Thought you might be interested in this pic of a very simple and effective Ragworm-Pattern (Silja's is based on it) tied by Thomas Vinge. stuart
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Post by apprentice2 on Jan 7, 2007 15:38:12 GMT -1
Trim away a few fibres on both sides of the core (of the herl or fritz) for a clean tight tie in. Tie in at bend of hook and allow to extend approx 10cm over the rear of the hook (extended "tail") and twist it with a hi-speed twirler. Fold in half over a needle, pinch, remove needle tie off and your done.
Stuart
Stuart, Thanks for the info and the encouragement. I can't find my twirler, (do we all buy too much fishing gear?) but thought I would try to simulate the effect by twisting cheniulle and fine copper wire together. By my standards the results are excellent. The 10 flies I have tied to date are definitely fishable and even worth showing to others. Tomorrow I may find time, and camera, to try some step by step photographs for posting. Thanks again Stuart and Silja by proxy.
Brian
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Post by christian on Jan 7, 2007 18:34:52 GMT -1
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Post by leigh on Jan 19, 2007 9:09:45 GMT -1
I shall be over in Denmark in August, not fishing tho sadly i'm touring with my band..Whats the fishing like in Dk
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Post by blackbob on Feb 3, 2007 15:04:53 GMT -1
Hi all, Anyone got a link showing how to tie a Copper fyggi?.
The link above doesn't seem to work.
Cheers! BB.
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Post by Cicada on Feb 3, 2007 18:57:09 GMT -1
Bob I think they know Hoppy's Boys are coming and have taken down that site in the past month. I copied the tying instructions and then translated them - see what you make of this - actually you can work it out but I laughed a lot!!
Fyggi Copper Chris Pedersen ) Hook: Mustad curved nymph #6-8 Butt: Copperbraun Tinselchenille Fanny: Black rubber , bound to a V cm ) Load: weight Amid the bent bly or blyfri thread ) Trunk: Copperbraun Tinselchenille Kropshackle: Brown cock Antennas: Black rubber , bound to a V ( ca. cm ) Brain: Quality the bandage the bandage Butterfly stroke shall neutralize , that the scut catching fixed about krogbøjningen. Tørn the once or twice to crown it all themselves. Bandage fanny and antennas into a V.
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Post by Cicada on Feb 3, 2007 19:15:59 GMT -1
And just for you, I rescued this pic before the site went down.. With thanks to seatroutfishing.dk
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Post by IanMcD on Feb 3, 2007 20:14:05 GMT -1
Magic cicada... I like you had great fun trying to translate with guesses and some german thrown in... ;D - about the only thing you didn't mention was adding 'lead' to the hook shank before the tinsel (think I'll use copper wire instead over the tinsel) Wild guess here that 'belastning' is close to the german word that translates to load ie. add weight rather than the umlauted version that translates to 'sexual harassment' - the mounting of the rubber band 'antenna' bits fore and aft can be seen in my fly description printout from the site in early January... see following URL for the 'recipe' and a side view of the copper bug... have fun i18.tinypic.com/46z5yc4.jpgRegards, IanMcD
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Post by IanMcD on Feb 3, 2007 20:21:36 GMT -1
Oops... sorry Cicada I've just noted that you had had included the fly weighting. Must learn to read properly .... Ian McD
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Post by blackbob on Feb 4, 2007 9:07:05 GMT -1
Thanks guys!
Interesting fly...is it radio controlled?....and which end is the fanny?.
Cheers BB.
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Post by silverinvicta on Feb 4, 2007 9:19:49 GMT -1
Ian McD, "Rubber Bands" can be difficult to set right, if you buy coarse anglers pole elastic, i find this the best of all, and it comes in many colours and diameters.
good luck mate.
Si.
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Post by christian on Feb 4, 2007 10:22:49 GMT -1
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Post by apprentice2 on Feb 14, 2007 15:39:14 GMT -1
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Post by apprentice2 on Feb 14, 2007 16:12:17 GMT -1
Oopss!!! Still not sure what I am doing. Will try again. Balticflyerfisher wrote - Thought you might be interested in this pic of a very simple and effective Ragworm-Pattern (Silja's is based on it) tied by Thomas Vinge. stuart Stuart et al, finally, with daughters, help semi-sorted out photobucket. This first photo shows, again my first attempt at a ragworm working off Stuarts ideas. I have used fine copper wire twisted together with a green micro-fritz and wrapped this duo around a snake mount size made up with a size 4 "carp" hook and a swivel, body length about 12 cm. I have made several in green, brown and red. They are castable with a 9 weight shooting head on 3/2.5m leader. I shall be taking them to Denmark but are they flies. At the weekend I bought some bright green pipe cleaners and have used these to produce another ragworm "fly" by threading the pipe cleaner through a swivel and a size 4 hook. The two end were twisted together. I then twisted the resultant loop into a tight stiff length. Next time I will mount the hook on a split ring as the hook eye was a little tight on the pipe cleaner. The resultant "fly" is stiffer than copper/fritz version. I shall be trying this on the club's lake at the weekend. Thsis is the result. Brian
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