moonshadow
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Post by moonshadow on Apr 10, 2007 13:37:19 GMT -1
Well as its easter time perhaps we will see the resurrection of common sense.
Doubt it so have e-mailed the assembly members standing for election and posed a few "what about" questions You never know it is the time of miracles.
Moonshadow
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Post by highplains on Apr 11, 2007 18:09:56 GMT -1
Hoppy,
Before I make any more postings on this or any other forum for that matter, I hope you will permit me to make it clear to you and all our friends and colleagues on this forum, that without your support I may well have given in to the frustrations of pushing our campaign for more bailiffs. You have provided support when I have needed it and an understanding ear when I just wanted to bleat! For that I am grateful and can only say - thanks you have been a star.
I wish you well with whatever it is that is on your mind at this time, I hope you sort things to your entire satisfaction. If and when you feel up to it please give me a call. In the meantime we will continue with this campaign with renewed vigour. It will be my way of saying thank you in a way I know you will appreciate.
All the very best.
Highplains
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Post by highplains on Apr 11, 2007 18:19:08 GMT -1
The following reply from Eleanor Burnham is on behalf of her party in Wales, other members of her party having emailed me to this effect.
All the best
Highplains
Eleanor Burnham (Liberal Democrat - North Wales)
Dear *.* ,
Thank you for your letter regarding the protection of Welsh fish stocks.
We acknowledge the concerns of the Federation of Clwyd Angling Clubs and are widely supportive of your points regarding the current restrictions within the remit of Environment Agency Wales. The Welsh Liberal Democrats will consider, working with Environment Agency Wales as the responsible statutory body, introducing more concrete requirements in their remit letter to protect fish stocks in the waters of Wales. This could indeed extend to the apprehension of poachers taking fish by means other than rod and line.
As the Environment Agency Wales review into its current enforcement structure and activities to protect Welsh fish stocks is ongoing, it would be inappropriate to pre-empt or pre-judge its findings. We look forward to examining the findings of the report when it comes before the Assembly. The specific results of the current review could also form the basis for more precise content of a revised Environment Agency Wales remit letter.
I hope this letter clarifies our position and answers your concerns.
Yours Sincerely,
Eleanor Burnham AM Welsh Liberal Democrat Assembly Member for North Wales and Spokesperson for Sport.
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Post by highplains on Apr 11, 2007 18:26:12 GMT -1
More support.
Highplains
Dear *.*
Thank you for your email addressed to Nick Bourne AM regarding the lack of Fisheries Enforcement Officers in Wales and its consequent effect on poaching.
Nick has asked me to reply on his behalf in his absence on the campaign trail to acknowledge receipt of your concerns and to say the Welsh Conservatives will consider your comments sympathetically in our response to the Environment Agency Wales' review of its enforcement policies when it comes before the National Assembly.
Thank you once again for contacting Nick Bourne.
Paul Morris
Group Administrator
Welsh Conservative Group
National Assembly for Wales
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Post by clwydman on Apr 11, 2007 19:57:58 GMT -1
Ok Highplains, a big well done for the support you seem to be getting. I feel a man like you is driven by a challenge. Lib Dems, got a letter from them, Conservative, got one from them, labour? have we had one from them? British National party we need one from them, Plaid, need one from them, raving looney part, need one from them then we can proudly present you with the coverted trophy, a Mcnab for support to your plight! ;D
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Post by highplains on Apr 11, 2007 21:35:35 GMT -1
Clwydman,
Well, and a big thank you to you!
Never mind all this Bull*.*, have you, yours and everybody you know written to your AM, prospective AM and anybody else with influence. Bye the way, its us not me. This has been a big team effort. I post the responses to keep people informed, in the hope it provides encouragement. It also puts the potential AM's comments in the public domain so we will be in a position to remind them when the time comes.
The elections are upon us. Keep the pressure on.
PLEASE!
Highplains
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Post by Gwyniadun on Apr 11, 2007 22:37:35 GMT -1
Highplains. I make no comment other than to say that they will say anything for the votes!!, what ever happened to truthfulness and sincerity? Quote: Eleanor Burnham (Liberal Democrat - North Wales) Dear *.* , Thank you for your letter regarding the protection of Welsh fish stocks. We acknowledge the concerns of the Federation of Clwyd Angling Clubs and are widely supportive of your points regarding the current restrictions within the remit of Environment Agency Wales. The Welsh Liberal Democrats will consider, working with Environment Agency Wales as the responsible statutory body, introducing more concrete requirements in their remit letter to protect fish stocks in the waters of Wales. This could indeed extend to the apprehension of poachers taking fish by means other than rod and line. As the Environment Agency Wales review into its current enforcement structure and activities to protect Welsh fish stocks is ongoing, it would be inappropriate to pre-empt or pre-judge its findings. We look forward to examining the findings of the report when it comes before the Assembly. The specific results of the current review could also form the basis for more precise content of a revised Environment Agency Wales remit letter. I hope this letter clarifies our position and answers your concerns. Yours Sincerely, Eleanor Burnham AM Welsh Liberal Democrat Assembly Member for North Wales and Spokesperson for Sport. Quote also from her website. Eleanor with Mayor Eifion Roberts and Sandy Buttle MBE at a special presentation at the Wales Canoeing Association headquarters in Bala last Saturday (Photo courtesy of Vicky Barlow) Eleanor Burnham AM has declared her party as the only one making a firm commitment to improve water access rights for people across Wales. Following the launch of the Welsh Conservative and Plaid Cymru manifestos, the Welsh Canoeing Association has expressed its concern that neither party have committed to opening up water access in Wales, as has been done in Scotland under the Liberal Democrats. There statutory access rights are in place for members of the public. Eleanor Burnham, Welsh Liberal Democrat Spokesperson for Sport and North Wales Assembly Member, said: "I am very proud to say that the Welsh Liberal Democrats are committed to changing current legislation in order that Wales most diverse and valuable natural resource can be enjoyed responsibly by everyone. "After in-depth discussion with paddlesport groups, including the WCA, and key tourism representatives, we seek to alter the exemptions listed in the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000, so it amends and increases what people are allowed to do in or on rivers and lakes. I did e-mail her to point this out and for some reason she did not reply Gwyniadun
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Post by highplains on Apr 13, 2007 18:44:38 GMT -1
All we can do is to keep on trying. In the end, if we persevere, we have a chance. Remember it supposed to be government of the people by the people for the people. Only our indifference will allow things to be otherwise.
I attach below further supportive correspondence. I like to think that by keep chipping away we will make s difference. If we don't, we might as well sell our rods and take up canoing!!
Think on!!
All the best.
Highplains
Dear Mr *.*, I write to thank you for your e-mail to Rhodri Glyn Thomas regarding the Plunder of Welsh Fisheries. Rhodri Glyn Thomas has forwarded your e-mail to me as I am his community officer. Rhodri has informed me that he completely supports the Federation of Clwyd Angling Clubs and anglers across Wales and we can assure you that if elected to the Assembly he will actively seek to ensure that in future the remit letter to the Environment Agency Wales includes all the requirements you have stated in your e-mail. Rhodri and I would like to thank you for contacting us and we hope we will get the opportunity to help, assist and offer our support in the future. Rhodri is very happy for you to publish his viewpoint on the web. Yours Sincerely Manon Rees Swyddog Cymunedol / Community Officer Dwyrain Caerfyrddin a Dinefwr Adam Price AS - Rhodri Glyn Thomas AC
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Post by highplains on Apr 13, 2007 19:01:17 GMT -1
I will post the reply, if there is one. All the best Highplains
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Post by Gwyniadun on Apr 13, 2007 20:43:51 GMT -1
Highplains.
I totally agree with you, presently it is falling on deaf ears, that seems to be the problem.
Peter Black has got it wrong, 'Eight enforcement officers for the whole of Wales', is not right, I can imagine what the reply will be.
Now here are some facts for you. The 'Brite' project was adopted by the EA in 2001. North Wales was split into 5 area's. Area 1&2 Gwynedd Area 3,4&5 Dee and Clwyd
The five area's were split into five Enivironment Teams, one for each area. Management decided to put one 'Fishery Officer' in each team at a cost of £200,000 to the then fisheries enforcement budget.
These were' Fisheries Enforcement Officers'
Area 1 Gwyn Area 2 John Parry Area 3 Keith Williams Area 4 Bill Staines Area 5 Gethyn Morris
By now all have gone to other functions or left the EA, they have not been replaced .....the money £200,000 per year still goes to these teams from the 'Fisheries Enforcement Budget' and there is nothing coming back.... this is not lack of funding from the Assembly, but mismanagement, well in my eyes anyway.
Gwyniadun
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Post by highplains on Apr 14, 2007 9:48:29 GMT -1
Gwyniadun,
Thank you for your comments, with which I totally agree.
It is very disconcerting that the current level of contribution to this thread seems to be minimal. Let's hope that's because members are busy writing to potential AM's.
A side effect of this campaign is that the profile of the fight is much greater than it was, people are more aware of the issue and hopefully will be adding pressure wherever they can. As I said previously, we either all get stuck in or we sell our fishing tackle and take up canoing!
Previously at a stage in the campaign like this. The elections are only a couple of weeks away, Hoppy would be joining in and encouraging forum members to join in and get behind the campaign. Now he has other things on his mind, and we all wish him well, I look to some of the other senior forum members to fly the flag and encourage others.
Please keep posting on this thread, the EA monitor what's going on.
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Post by rwgbridgend on Apr 15, 2007 11:11:57 GMT -1
Highplains,
some of the responses from the AM's seem very encouraging, especially that of Peter Black. I will be contacting him shortly regarding this issue as he is my local lib dem Am on the regional list. The local Consevative Am Alun Cairns has been very good and has helped greatly with the campaign as you know. If forum members contacted their local AM (constituency and regional) we could make a big difference to this campaign.
Highplains, I beleive that the profile of this campaign has increased greatly at Cardiff Bay thanks to your efforts.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Apr 15, 2007 18:49:19 GMT -1
In response to Highplains and rwgbridgends recents posts and the fact that the Welsh Assembly elections are getting ever closer I have contacted Highplains with a suggestion that as forum members we might be able to add further weight to the prodigious efforts he has already made.
I have asked Highplains to provide me with a 'standard letter' that lays out the key points that he has been putting in front of the Assembly Members and also an 'email group' of their addresses. It should then be an easy matter for all forum users to copy the text of the letter, insert the group of addresses and send, in one hit, a letter to all the Assembly Members.
There are, give or take, some 900 forum members, not all of whom are active, but if 25% of members sent the mail to all the Assembly Members then it would certainly boost the momentum and impact of the campaign.
I appreciate that this effort is directed specifically at the Welsh rivers but it is something that affects us all, no matter where we pursue sea trout and if a culture shift or heightened awareness even is achieved in Wales then it can only have beneficial effects for the rest of us in other EA areas.
Watch this space for further news!
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Post by Gwyniadun on Apr 16, 2007 12:22:04 GMT -1
Highplains. I was not referring to members of the forum when I said that 'matters were falling on deaf ears', but to the Management of the EA and also the Welsh Assembly....however....we must await the outcome of the review that is taking place. I lay top dollar odds that it will reveal exactly the same as the FERAC report suggested in 2005. With that outcome we may get some action, my last post details specific facts, what are your views on that? Paul has a good point and can only enhance the pressure. This was sent to me today a copy of a photograph from the Angling Times March 27th . We could also do with more of this.
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Post by highplains on Apr 16, 2007 16:15:03 GMT -1
Gwyniadun,
I have made my views quite clear. We need to return to the days when we had effective enforcement on Welsh rivers.
I have not checked the details, but have no reason to doubt Kieth Williams when he said there used to be 93 bailiffs in the whole of Wales. This would seem to me to translate to 200 today, given that they have to work in pairs for health and safety reasons.
On the face of it this sounds a lot, but as fisheries only currently takes up around 3% of the EAW budget, then this sort of number ought to be achievable, particularly considering that an Enforcement Officers post is a good one and that quality of job is in short supply in many of the rural areas of Wales. It would be a case of local people looking after local interests.
I am uncertain on which of the other comments you made, that you feel I have failed to address in some way, so hope this is sufficient.
All the best
Highplains
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Apr 16, 2007 16:52:58 GMT -1
Here is a standard text that Highplains has prepared that can be copied and pasted into an email and sent to all the Welsh Assembly Members. I will post all their email addresses in my next posting.
If any forum members would like to receive the addresses in .wab format (Windows Address Book) to create a mail group and send them to all Members in one hit then please email me and I'll send you the file as an attachment. (dunstan.paul@talk21.com)
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Dear Assembly Member
Re: The plunder of Welsh Fisheries.
Poachers in Wales are now free to roam at will, with little or no fear of apprehension. You are allowing one of the greatest assets of this great country to be depleted at an ever-increasing rate! Now is the time to start to stop the rot and take action to protect one of Wales’s great heritages
60,000 anglers purchase rod licences in Wales each year, many thousands more are sea anglers. The majority of these anglers have votes.
1. Tourism and recreation are extremely important to Wales bringing in an estimated £1.3 billion in 1994
2. Rural economies benefit by well over £100 million from angler expenditure in Wales. With half a million people making fishing at least a part of their holidays here,
Some details about the Environment Agency Wales Northern Area.
3. Area of operations: From Borth, below Machynlleth in central Cardigan Bay in the West around to the Dee Estuary in the East and all inland areas down to Wrexham and Ruthin and back across to the coast in the West.
Length of rivers: Approximately 3,470 miles of main and other rivers. (Figure provided by the EAW)
Number of Enforcement Officers: 8 (one vacancy yet to be filled as at April 2006)
Number of pairs to carry out Enforcement duties: 4 (Health and safety considerations mean that they have to operate in pairs when attending to incidents or dealing with ‘individuals’ who may be acting illegally.)
Length of river for which each pair of Enforcement Officers have responsibility: 867.5 miles
Duties include policing all waters rivers, lakes, estuaries and all coastal waters also environmental pollution over the whole of the above specified land mass.
With this level of enforcement it is impossible for the Agency to protect one of Wales’s greatest assets. Welsh rivers are being ravaged by poachers, who even drag mating salmon from the river leaving trails of eggs across the ground as evidence of their thieving. If this continues there will soon be dangerously low levels of fish and angling will be banned by the very agency that will have failed to have protected one of the great treasures of Wales.
The Environment Agency Remit Letter 2006/7, states quite categorically that:
“This remit letter sets out your role in relation to this strategic agenda including the priorities, key performance indicators and outputs that I expect the Agency to deliver in 2006-07. This will form the basis or the Agency’s Plan for 2006-07.”
There is no reference in the ‘remit letter’ to protecting the fish in the waters of Wales, or to apprehending poachers from taking fish by means other than rod and line. You will appreciate that no requirement to comply with performance indicators relating to poaching, means that little or no anti poaching work is carried out as there are no “brownie points” to be gained from so doing.
I would like your assurance that if elected to the Assembly you will actively seek to ensure that in future the remit letter to the Environment Agency Wales includes the requirement for the Agency to:
a) Introduce the production of an intelligence lead data base of the criminals involved in the illegal taking of fish, other than by rod and line, from the rivers and estuaries of Wales. Many of whom are already known to them, but the Agency lacks the resources to pursue.
b) Introduce performance targets for the apprehension of those taking fish illegally, other than by rod and line, based upon a percentage over and above those that were being apprehended prior to the drastic reduction in Agency enforcement staff back in 1992.
c) To ensure that the Agency classifies the apprehension of those poaching, other than by rod and line, as a top priority and appropriate funding is provided to enable the Agency to discharge this duty fully.
d) Exclude the checking of licences and prosecutions resulting there from as being poaching related but classified as fishing without an appropriate licence.
The angling community keenly await your response.
Yours faithfully
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Apr 16, 2007 17:05:45 GMT -1
Assembly Member Email Addresses
Alun Cairns AM E-mail Address(es): Alun.Cairns@wales.gov.uk
Alun Ffred E-mail Address(es): AlunFfred.@wales.gov.uk
Alun Pugh E-mail Address(es): Alun.Pugh@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Andrew Davies E-mail Address(es): Andrew.Davies@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Ann E-mail Address(es): Ann.@wales.gov.uk
Brian Gibbons E-mail Address(es): Brian.Gibbons@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Brynle Williams E-mail Address(es): Brynle.Williams@wales.gov.uk
Carl Sargeant E-mail Address(es): Carl.Sargeant@wales.gov.uk
Catherine Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Catherine.Thomas@wales.gov.uk
Christine Chapman AM E-mail Address(es): Christine.Chapman@wales.gov.uk
Christine Gwyther AM E-mail Address(es): Christine.Gwyther@wales.gov.uk
Clare Tinniswood E-mail Address(es): Clare.Tinniswood1@wales.gov.uk>
Dai Lloyd AM E-mail Address(es): Dai.Lloyd@wales.gov.uk
David Davies AM E-mail Address(es): David.Davies@wales.gov.uk
David Melding AM E-mail Address(es): David.Melding@wales.gov.uk
Denise Idris E-mail Address(es): DeniseIdris.@wales.gov.uk
Edwina Hart E-mail Address(es): Edwina.Hart@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Elenor Burnham E-mail Address(es): Eleanor.Burnham@wales.gov.uk
Elin AM E-mail Address(es): Elin.@wales.gov.uk
Gwenda Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Gwenda.Thomas@wales.gov.uk
Helen-Mary AM E-mail Address(es): Helen-Mary.@wales.gov.uk
Huw Lewis AM E-mail Address(es): Huw.Lewis@wales.gov.uk
Irene James AM E-mail Address(es): Irene.James@wales.gov.uk
Jane Davidson E-mail Address(es): Jane.Davidson@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Jane Hutt E-mail Address(es): Jane.Hutt@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Janet Davies AM E-mail Address(es): Janet.Davies@wales.gov.uk
Janet Ryder E-mail Address(es): Janet.Ryder@wales.gov.uk
Janice Gregory AM E-mail Address(es): Janice.Gregory@wales.gov.uk
Jenny Randerson AM E-mail Address(es): Jenny.Randerson@wales.gov.uk
Jocelyn Davies AM E-mail Address(es): Jocelyn.Davies@wales.gov.uk
John Griffiths AM E-mail Address(es): John.Griffiths@wales.gov.uk
John Marek E-mail Address(es): John.Marek@wales.gov.uk
Jonathan Morgan AM E-mail Address(es): Jonathan.Morgan@wales.gov.uk
Karen Sinclair E-mail Address(es): Karen.Sinclair@wales.gov.uk
Kirsty Williams AM E-mail Address(es): Kirsty.Williams@wales.gov.uk
Laura AM E-mail Address(es): Laura.@wales.gov.uk
Leanne Wood AM E-mail Address(es): Leanne.Wood@wales.gov.uk
Leighton Andrews AM E-mail Address(es): Leighton.Andrews@wales.gov.uk
Lisa Francis AM E-mail Address(es): Lisa.Francis@wales.gov.uk
Lorraine Barrett AM E-mail Address(es): Lorraine.Barrett@wales.gov.uk
Lynne Neagle AM E-mail Address(es): Lynne.Neagle@wales.gov.uk
Mark Isherwood E-mail Address(es): Mark.Isherwood@wales.gov.uk
Michael German AM E-mail Address(es): Michael.German@wales.gov.uk
Mick Bates AM E-mail Address(es): Mick.Bates@wales.gov.uk
Nicholas Bourne AM E-mail Address(es): Nicholas.Bourne@wales.gov.uk
Owen Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Owen.Thomas@wales.gov.uk
Peter Law AM E-mail Address(es): Peter.Law@wales.gov.uk
Rhodri Morgan E-mail Address(es): Rhodri.Morgan@Wales.gsi.gov.uk
Rhodri Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Rhodri.Thomas@wales.gov.uk
Rosemary Butler AM E-mail Address(es): Rosemary.Butler@wales.gov.uk
Sandy Mewies E-mail Address(es): Sandy.Mewies@wales.gov.uk
Tasmin Dunwoody AM E-mail Address(es): Tamsin.Dunwoody@wales.gov.uk
Valerie Lloyd AM E-mail Address(es): Valerie.Lloyd@Wales.gov.uk
William Graham AM E-mail Address(es): William.Graham@wales.gov.uk
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Post by DAZ on Apr 16, 2007 22:20:33 GMT -1
Thank you Paul & Highplains. That is of great help to myself and others I am sure. I will start emailing right away DAZ.
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Post by sewinbasher on Apr 17, 2007 8:01:13 GMT -1
Assembly Member Email AddressesAlun Cairns AM E-mail Address(es): Alun.Cairns@wales.gov.uk Alun Ffred E-mail Address(es): AlunFfred.@wales.gov.uk Alun Pugh E-mail Address(es): Alun.Pugh@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Andrew Davies E-mail Address(es): Andrew.Davies@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Ann E-mail Address(es): Ann.@wales.gov.uk Brian Gibbons E-mail Address(es): Brian.Gibbons@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Brynle Williams E-mail Address(es): Brynle.Williams@wales.gov.uk Carl Sargeant E-mail Address(es): Carl.Sargeant@wales.gov.uk Catherine Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Catherine.Thomas@wales.gov.uk Christine Chapman AM E-mail Address(es): Christine.Chapman@wales.gov.uk Christine Gwyther AM E-mail Address(es): Christine.Gwyther@wales.gov.uk Clare Tinniswood E-mail Address(es): Clare.Tinniswood1@wales.gov.uk> Dai Lloyd AM E-mail Address(es): Dai.Lloyd@wales.gov.uk David Davies AM E-mail Address(es): David.Davies@wales.gov.uk David Melding AM E-mail Address(es): David.Melding@wales.gov.uk Denise Idris E-mail Address(es): DeniseIdris.@wales.gov.uk Edwina Hart E-mail Address(es): Edwina.Hart@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Elenor Burnham E-mail Address(es): Eleanor.Burnham@wales.gov.uk Elin AM E-mail Address(es): Elin.@wales.gov.uk Gwenda Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Gwenda.Thomas@wales.gov.uk Helen-Mary AM E-mail Address(es): Helen-Mary.@wales.gov.uk Huw Lewis AM E-mail Address(es): Huw.Lewis@wales.gov.uk Irene James AM E-mail Address(es): Irene.James@wales.gov.uk Jane Davidson E-mail Address(es): Jane.Davidson@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Jane Hutt E-mail Address(es): Jane.Hutt@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Janet Davies AM E-mail Address(es): Janet.Davies@wales.gov.uk Janet Ryder E-mail Address(es): Janet.Ryder@wales.gov.uk Janice Gregory AM E-mail Address(es): Janice.Gregory@wales.gov.uk Jenny Randerson AM E-mail Address(es): Jenny.Randerson@wales.gov.uk Jocelyn Davies AM E-mail Address(es): Jocelyn.Davies@wales.gov.uk John Griffiths AM E-mail Address(es): John.Griffiths@wales.gov.uk John Marek E-mail Address(es): John.Marek@wales.gov.uk Jonathan Morgan AM E-mail Address(es): Jonathan.Morgan@wales.gov.uk Karen Sinclair E-mail Address(es): Karen.Sinclair@wales.gov.uk Kirsty Williams AM E-mail Address(es): Kirsty.Williams@wales.gov.uk Laura AM E-mail Address(es): Laura.@wales.gov.uk Leanne Wood AM E-mail Address(es): Leanne.Wood@wales.gov.uk Leighton Andrews AM E-mail Address(es): Leighton.Andrews@wales.gov.uk Lisa Francis AM E-mail Address(es): Lisa.Francis@wales.gov.uk Lorraine Barrett AM E-mail Address(es): Lorraine.Barrett@wales.gov.uk Lynne Neagle AM E-mail Address(es): Lynne.Neagle@wales.gov.uk Mark Isherwood E-mail Address(es): Mark.Isherwood@wales.gov.uk Michael German AM E-mail Address(es): Michael.German@wales.gov.uk Mick Bates AM E-mail Address(es): Mick.Bates@wales.gov.uk Nicholas Bourne AM E-mail Address(es): Nicholas.Bourne@wales.gov.uk Owen Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Owen.Thomas@wales.gov.uk Peter Law AM E-mail Address(es): Peter.Law@wales.gov.uk Rhodri Morgan E-mail Address(es): Rhodri.Morgan@Wales.gsi.gov.uk Rhodri Thomas AM E-mail Address(es): Rhodri.Thomas@wales.gov.uk Rosemary Butler AM E-mail Address(es): Rosemary.Butler@wales.gov.uk Sandy Mewies E-mail Address(es): Sandy.Mewies@wales.gov.uk Tasmin Dunwoody AM E-mail Address(es): Tamsin.Dunwoody@wales.gov.uk Valerie Lloyd AM E-mail Address(es): Valerie.Lloyd@Wales.gov.uk William Graham AM E-mail Address(es): William.Graham@wales.gov.uk Paul, very useful but i am sure that Peter Law has passed away some time ago and that his seat is now held by his widow Trish.
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Post by sewinbasher on Apr 17, 2007 8:04:21 GMT -1
Gwyniadun, I have made my views quite clear. We need to return to the days when we had effective enforcement on Welsh rivers. I have not checked the details, but have no reason to doubt Kieth Williams when he said there used to be 93 bailiffs in the whole of Wales. This would seem to me to translate to 200 today, given that they have to work in pairs for health and safety reasons. On the face of it this sounds a lot, but as fisheries only currently takes up around 3% of the EAW budget, then this sort of number ought to be achievable, particularly considering that an Enforcement Officers post is a good one and that quality of job is in short supply in many of the rural areas of Wales. It would be a case of local people looking after local interests. I am uncertain on which of the other comments you made, that you feel I have failed to address in some way, so hope this is sufficient. All the best Highplains There used to be as high a level of coverage on the Wye alone as there is now for the whole of Wales and I'm only talking maybe 15 years ago.
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