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Post by offshore on Jun 10, 2005 1:35:56 GMT -1
Can anyone give me advice on a suitable reasonably priced sea trout rod.
I bought a Hardy Sirrus 9'6" 7# last year which I cant seem to get used to (it could be me!).
I was thinking about a 10' Greys grx ( 6/7 or 7/8). This model has been out for some time so perhaps a better alternative is available?
I am looking for a rod I can spey/roll cast with (in particular) and is able to handle larger flies in mediun sized rivers.
It gets expensive buying the wrong gear!
Length, weight, model : all advice appreciated.
Thanks
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Post by durk on Jun 10, 2005 2:12:27 GMT -1
The simple advice here is definitely try before you buy, (longer the better). I recently tried eight rods ranging from £20-£350, some of the v fast ones (tip) shown up error's in my timing, some of the soft ones (through action) just didn't put any line out with my casting stroke, and in the end I opted for a middle to tip rod, it's going to depend on your style whether a rod suits you or not. A rod that I particulary liked was the Sage launch 9' 7# good feel, and it put out a good roll cast and for £150 with lifetime guarantee well worth it (the sage fli was too tippy for me and more expensive), in the end I opted for something that done the job for £70 and suited me (and my pocket). Another point to remember if your fishing for seatrout at night is you'll be doing everthing by touch/feel, (possible casting errors). Most people probably don't fish more than 15 yards at night either, and I believe too stiff of a rod hinderes playing fish and keeping them hooked , others may well disagree. There are many, more experienced anglers on this site than me, I'm sure they will offer you further advice.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Jun 10, 2005 6:02:01 GMT -1
I agree with Durk, what you're looking for is a fishing rod not a casting tool. Fast action rods can be very unforgiving if you're not able to cast with a consistent stroke in the dark.
My own preference is for a rod with a middle to tip action that will throw a fairly open loop 15 to 20 yards. You'll probably want it to have enough in reserve to handle a sinking line and a tube or a waddington.
I have an Enigma, Sea Trout Special, 10ft, 8wt that I'm very fond of - quite a 'powerful' rod but one that you can comfortably fish with all night.
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Post by Llan on Jun 10, 2005 6:40:16 GMT -1
Hi Offshore,
I was bought an ABU Garcia Aquaflex 9Ft 7-8 weight as a gift, and having used it on the Towy and Loughor this year it is working beautifully to cast a WF 8 line and has behaved very nicley whilst playing the 3 sewin I have had this year, granted the biggest has been 2 3/4 lbs. They cost between £100 - £120 (depending on model) with a lifetime guarantee. Excellent rod and brilliant value for money. I have also got an Enigma and an old Daiwa CF98 and this rod, in my opinion betters them both for my needs of pursuing the silver ones.
Good luck with the purchase
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Jun 10, 2005 7:44:17 GMT -1
Hi Offshore.
Yes superb advice from Durk; if you can, try the rods first - even better if you can try them on water rather than grass.
Pauld D' suggestion of the enigma is spot on, not too tippy and will be fine for a roll casting. Quite a few secondhand knocking about too, try calling fishtec to see if they have a good 2nd.
Middle to Tip or through action would be recommended, but make sure that it still has some reserve in the lower third for playing fish - quite often the softer rods lose this butt stifness.
If you are quite new to the casts, or are fishing relatively short casts - I would again recommend overloading the rod by 1 line weight, it would have any detrimental affects on the rod over such distances and roll casting will become a lot lot easier.
Hope it helps.
Steffan.
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Post by salar76 on Jun 10, 2005 10:58:56 GMT -1
has anyone tried these new Guideline rods - not sure of the action, but if the single handers are a good as the double-handers are meant to be then that could be a good mid-range option? quite keen to give one a wizz myself soon....sure i can justify another 10' #8 in my armoury somewhere!!!
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Post by offshore on Jun 11, 2005 22:13:47 GMT -1
Durk,
Which rod did you choose from the eight you tested?
Has anybody tried the new Greyflex?
Thanks for all the advice so far?
Offshore
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Post by durk on Jun 12, 2005 15:55:42 GMT -1
A second hand 9'6" 7# 3 piece vision 3 zone, no laughing please, it suited me, no silver ones have tried it yet
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Post by ALAN on Jun 19, 2005 19:18:38 GMT -1
HELLO, HAVE LITERALLY 100'S OF RODS, HOWEVER THE BEST ALL ROUNDER VALUE FOR MONEY ETC ETC HAS TO BE GREY'S GRX 9'6" #7/8 SALTWATER 3 PIECE. LIKE I SAY I HAVE SAGE LOOMIS HARDY'S ETC BUT I NEARLY ALWAYS USE THIS GRX FOR MY NIGHTTIME SEA TROUT EXPEDITIONS, GOOD LUCK AND THIS IS ONLY MY POINT OF VIEW! THANKS..
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Post by andyfly on Jun 21, 2005 19:57:12 GMT -1
i would like more info on the enigma Johnathon sea trout 10ft 8. in the catalogs there doesn't seem to be much information .can anybody help best regards Andy.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Jun 21, 2005 20:27:57 GMT -1
i would like more info on the enigma Johnathon sea trout 10ft 8. in the catalogs there doesn't seem to be much information .can anybody help best regards Andy. I've had one now for 3 years and I'm very pleased with it. What would you like to know?
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Post by andyfly offline on Jun 21, 2005 20:42:46 GMT -1
whats the rod like for sunk line working ,do you think it is value for the money.is it ok for woddies,small tubes . cheers Andy
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Jun 21, 2005 21:39:56 GMT -1
I've used the rod with shooting heads from floating through to HiD in 9wt and more recently with both 8wf Cortland Ghost Tips and Wetcel 2.
It's a good 'fishing rod' - it's not a casting stick - but it has a progressive action and tubes and waddingtons are cast comfortably if the line, leader and fly are suitably balanced.
Interestlingly, adjusting timing it will also persuade it to put out a 7wf!
For a 10ft, 8wt it's also very light and comfortable to fish with - I've fished a sunk line on it all day on a reservoir and not been excessively tired - just bored!
Value for money - can't say - it's in the eye and wallet of the beholder.
If you get the chance, have a chuck with one!
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Post by Teifi Terrorist on Jun 22, 2005 12:09:14 GMT -1
I too own and do occassionally use the 10ft for the 8 weight enigma. Really nice rod, light, not too pokey - agree with PaulD; a fishing tool.
Don't go for the 7 weight version though, has about as much backbone as Tony Blair.
The 8 weight should cover all your eventualities, and I have found it to be a very forgiving rod, great for casting cumbersome flies such as non-aerodynamic surface lures!
Steffan.
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Post by andyfly on Jun 22, 2005 12:19:23 GMT -1
cheers Paul&Stefan liked the bit about as much backbone as tony Blair .think i will buy the 8wt model . regards Andy
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Post by andyfly on Jun 22, 2005 12:23:09 GMT -1
ooops spelled your name wrong steffan
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Post by Prodigal Son on Jun 23, 2005 22:23:02 GMT -1
Only problem with the Jonathan is that it's a two piece. Fine but just a little cumbersome and a tad awkward if you are travelling. Ideal if you're a local or have somewhere to keep it near the river.
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Post by Paul Dunstan on Jun 24, 2005 5:38:02 GMT -1
Not really a problem - if the car is a little cramped for space I leave the wife at home!
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Post by wnion on Jun 24, 2005 11:15:13 GMT -1
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Post by dutchyfish on Jul 10, 2005 15:45:47 GMT -1
:)I have noticed a few reports recommending through action rods and can't agree more.I have had a scierra sst rod for three years which is a wonderful rod to cast with but lost and missed so many fish I came to the conclusion that it was the rods fault rather than mine.This year I purchased a Lureflash Mamba gold(7-9 rated 10.5 feet) and have only missed one good take out of 11 fish hooked and Ican't recommend this rod any higher.Only time will tell if the built quality is up to scratch but at 85 quid it's a gem.
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